Tuesday, June 21, 2011

Help for Post hike depression:PHD

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Help for Post hike depression:PHD
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Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:00 PM
I am familiar with PTSD. Is there also help for someone suffering from PHD? Hiked only about 300 miles, planned to make it all the way. Life intervened and through no ones fault but my own, plans changed. Here I am home with no hope of getting to Canada this year, although I will keep chipping away at the miles as I am able, I love being on the trail. I am just too slow. Is anyone else out there grappling with the same disappointment? I would be interested to know how you handled it. (No "I told you so's" please, I feel bad enough)..

Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter@gmail.com> Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:49 PM
To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>
I'm realizing I may not make it in one year as well.  So I'm just making the most of it, and taking plenty of pictures and embracing the beauty of the experience.  If you want to read on: www.guthrienutter.com is a good site.  If people pass me, so what.  Maybe they'll make it, maybe they won't.  I'm seeing that everyone is having their own obstacles and I am fighting the temptation to project my reasons onto them.  It still comes up now and then, but not as intense as before....I hope you've been able to enjoy the magic.  *smile*

Hugs,

Guthrie

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Ken Powers <ken@gottawalk.com> Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM
To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>
Karen, you will remember your hike as one of life's greatest joys. Really.
Wait a few weeks,or months, and your disappointment will change to fond
memories of hiking. Then you'll be ready to go again, and again, and again.

Ken
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Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker@gmail.com>Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:25 PM
To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>
Dear Karen

I have no experience of depression, but I know how to treat depressive
feeling. There are three techniques: medication, psychotherapy, and
physical exercise.

1. The anti-depressant medication will improve your feeling, but it
has bad side effect, and when the medication is over, you will feel
depression again.
2. The cognitive-behavioral therapy improve your feeling, and it has
more continuous effects to depression.  The shortcoming is it need
professional therapist.
3. The physical exercise also improve your feeling, and it also has
more continuous effects to depression. This technique is very simple.
You need to exercise by 30 minute jogging or walking  three times a
week. That is enough. Your feeling will be improved in one month.

I recommend the physical exercise technique, because it is very
simple, and  need no cost, and no professionals. The physical exercise
technique was proved to have effect to cure depressive feeling in the
recent randomized control trial researches.



2011/6/20 Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>:
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Donna Saufley <dsaufley@sprynet.com> Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:16 PM
To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>
Big hug sent your way.  Now, snap out of it, splash some cold water on your
face and get onto the activity of living life to its fullest.  Banish the
negative thoughts of depression and self criticism. Remember, YOU ARE
WONDERFUL!!! Be comforted that you are far from alone having to give up the
dream of a thru-hike this year. This is a season unlike any we've seen in
recent history.  Besides, section hiking the PCT rocks, and gives you a
better chance of enjoying where you are, which is the secret to happiness.
You've been given a great opportunity to benefit from life's Plan B.  The
trail teaches us it is not about the destination, it's about the journey.
Just like discovering what's around the next bend in the trail, enjoy the
next set of serendipitous adventures.

L-Rod


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Scott Williams <baidarker@gmail.com> Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM
To: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker@gmail.com>
I agree with the exercise recommendation as it is often as effective as antidepressants, and for the cognitive part, plan your next hike.  You don't have to be fast out there, you just have to be out there.  

I bumped into Helen about a hundred miles south of Mt. Hood last year.  Korean American lady who I thought was about 65 years old or so.  She wasn't very fast, but was lovely to talk to, so we hiked together for awhile.  She  had completed the CA section of the trail several years ago and was now completing OR.  I asked her what got her back on trail and she said, "Oh well, most of my friends have passed on and it was just time I completed the trail."  At that I asked if she minded telling me how old she was and she said, "That's fine, I'm 80 years old."  I then told her she was my hero.  She was beautiful, she was dealing with loss, she was slow, but she was back on trail, doing what she loved.  No reason not to section hike this beautiful trail of ours over time, and at your pace, and let yourself feel good about what you did this year, and how good it's going to feel next time you step onto it again.  You've got a friend for life, and it isn't going anywhere without you.

Shroomer



Trish Clayburgh <trish.wild@yahoo.com>Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:07 PM
To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>
Hi Karen!

I just loved what Shroomer wrote.

I also "failed" in my attempt to ride the PCT on horseback this year.  My "partner" deserted me, took critical safety gear, and left his lame horse for me to rescue.

It wasn't what I planned!  But in the process, I met amazing kind and generous trail angels, and acquired a fantastic horse who will be ready for the rigors of the PCT one day...

I experience a huge emotional let down, but what saved me and brought me back to joy was doing what I love.  I went to the desert and camped alone with my herd.  In a couple of hours, I was feeling great again, and I am now gearing up to tackle the PCT alone, stronger than ever, and committed to keeping my horses safe and healthy as well as myself.

Disappointment grows from expectations.  I found that letting go of what I wanted to happen and focusing instead on all the good that did happen was the best medicine.

Also,  for me, I'm a lot happier when I eat right and avoid sugar and alcohol.

; -)

Call if you want to chat.  I'd love to hear your stories.

I plan to be back on the trail in July, heading north and skipping the treacherous parts.

You are my hero for admitting your feelings in public and telling the truth about the challenge of the trail!  I would love to be friends with someone as brave and strong as you!

Trish Wild, RN PhD
The Equine Nomad
Trishwild.blitzing.com
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aslive@charter.net <aslive@charter.net> Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:08 PM
To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com>
Many, if not most PCT hikers are not through hikers, but section hikers who take years to complete the whole thing if they complete it at all. I have been walking the trail for six years and have a lot more to go. That is okay.  Instead of a one year adventure, it has become an odyssey.  I can choose what sections to do and when is the best weather to do them.  I can take my time and enjoy what I am walking through and not worry so much about mileage.  Don't get down on yourself.  enjoy the opportunity.  This is a gift.

Shepherd.
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Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob@comcast.net> Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:21 PM
We section hikers have one truly massive advantage over the thru-hikers; we
get to choose when we traverse a given section. That translates to "when
conditions are most likely to be optimal or most convenient for us".
Thru-hikers must take the trail as it comes (and this year they're taking it
in the shorts).

When you're holding down a full time job because your family likes to eat
and vacation time is limited, a thru-hike is not even on the radar screen.




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Karen Keller <karen.kellerford@gmail.com> Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:02 PM
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